Having just heard what efforts even St. Paul had to make to run in the Christian race, and how terribly their fathers in the wilderness had failed to meet the requirements of God, they might be inclined to throw up every effort in despair. We have many of these moments through out our physical lives. Romans 16:17-18, They said to you, In the last time there will be scoffers, following their own ungodly passions. It is these who cause divisions, worldly people, devoid of the Spirit. 2And Abraham said unto his eldest servant of his house, that ruled over all that he had, Put, I pray thee, thy hand under my thigh: After a bit of research on Ms. Shirer, Im determined that shes one to beware of. Accused is a very loaded, and in this case, inaccurate term.
2 Kings 5:1-15. Well, man, if theres only going to be a handful of people experiencing what weve learned on the pewthen I want one of those to be me., The story of Joshua and Caleb being the only ones to enter the Promised Land has absolutely no connection whatsoever with how many Christians today will be able to achieve intimacy with God. This article is more along the lines of a court case where youre on the jury and Im showing you the evidence of Priscilla Shirer breaking the law. Pink Impact ConferencePriscilla joined with faith healing apostle of the New Apostolic Reformation, Todd White, as well as false teachers Christine Caine, Lisa Harper, and Pastor Debbie Morris. What is certain is that Paul, in saying, "do not go beyond what is written," was not teaching sola scriptura. What is a defining moment? #2 I wasnt aware that Joyce Meyer, Christine Caine and the Osteens were false teachers! Do you think the stretching feels good? How is this different?. 2.
Thank you so much for your consideration, As a Christian when we face difficulty God provides the means for us to be encouraged, but we are not just to languish in that resting place. There are still some good, solid blogs over there (such as Kevin DeYoungs and Erik Raymonds), and they frequently put out helpful, doctrinally solid articles, but Ive chosen to use other sources instead. But believers are to grow to maturity in their relationship with Christ and their knowlege of His word. - Jonah didnt smell good. Feel free to e-mail me (MichelleLesley1@yahoo.com) if it would be easier for you. If a big guy writes against a LifeWay person, he might not get anymore invitations. YLT, NASB, ASV, AM, LEB, WEB. Thank you, Michelle! Romans 4:18 Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be. Philippians 4:13 Verse Concepts I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. God made you capable and smart enough to read His word in a systematic way, understand it, and grow from it. 2 Timothy 4:5 Verse Concepts After the service, people went by the preacher, tired and exhausted. Often, when readers express their disagreement, they do so in a very vicious and attacking way, so I really appreciate it when someone politely expresses herself. It was an immediate NO after I listened to less than 1 minute of her reference about Oprah. Scripture doesnt specify that only preaching from a pulpit on Sunday morning as a pastor would or leading a church qualifies as preaching to or teaching men, but, yes, they have both done the former and neither has indicated repentance over it or any plans to stop doing so. Warning people away from false teaching is not gossip. Or and be .. Your objection is most likely answered here. Jesus starts with a biblical truth and uses a story (parable) to illustrate or give an example of that biblical truth. read more, Scripture:
For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. The MEGA Live Event July 23rd, 2021 Tulips & Honey. Go beyond what's familiar. Heres why. Priscilla Shirer is. After all, Scripture teaches that Scripture is sufficient. They had started out on the right foot with the biblical gospel, but false teachings were beginning to take hold. Going Beyond Ministries with Priscilla Shirer - The Mercy of Our Great God (March 24, 2017) Priscilla preaches the Sunday sermon at Celebration Church (co-"pastored" by a woman) Priscilla Shirer: YOUR Spiritual Battle & the Armor of God (Full Teaching) | Praise on TBN (May 21, 2021) Priscilla preaching to a co-ed audience at Passion 2018 As Christians, we are to follow and obey Gods written word, the Bible, not our own opinions. Go beyond putting ourselves first. read more, Scripture:
And, sometimes, basic is enough. My point to your previous reply to me is that I refer to my bible for instructions from the Holy Spirit as to my role in the body of Christ.. You are very kind and encouraging :0).
As a womens leader at your church are you not often asked questions to clarify your personal views? But books and blogs written for women are not what 1 Timothy 2:12 refers to, and its not the same as willingly allowing men to attend (which is something Beth and Priscilla both do) an event where a woman, in an authoritative position, is teaching Gods word to believers, or accepting speaking engagements that are open to men. I didnt know I was reading and studying scripture wrong. 2 John 1:1-11. Going Beyond Obedience. If you believe women shouldnt work, this includes you. All you need to say is simply 'Yes' or 'No'; anything beyond this comes from the evil one. Isaiah 58:12. I KNOW that you probably dont have the proclivity to clarify your position (youve already stated that you wouldnt/ couldnt reply to questions that are long. Thank you! Going by her recent appearances, she no longer seems to have any reservations about violating the Scriptures that prohibit her from teaching and preaching to men. It sounds like you want to be discerning and weigh things carefully. Also, the small sources dont have skin in the book and lecture circuit game. Priscilla Shirer is a wife and mom of three boys hailing from the Dallas area. Steven Furtick is the pastor of Lysa TerKeurst, and he is on Oprahs Super Soul 100 list.
If you need more examples, simply go to YouTube and type Priscilla Shirer sermon into the search bar. I know they were long and torturous~ especially since youve obviously answered the same questions over and over to others. Please see the links to our EXTRA Bible Study notes at the bottom of the page. ROger Oakland of understanding the times and a few good men, are putting together a web site. and before she began she said that she was there under the guidance of her pastor and that if men were present, they should understand that her teachings were meant for women. MATTHEW 14:16
And His promises will never let you down or disappoint you. I do not endorse any of these sites in so far as any of them might deviate from Scripture or conflict with my beliefs as outlined in the Welcome or Statement of Faith tabs at the top of this page. Its this link: http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=18085. http://the-end-time.blogspot.com/2012/10/introducing-priscilla-shirer-and-jesus.html. On October 16, 2016, Priscilla and her husband, children, and mother were in attendance at T.D. When the disciples asked Jesus to teach them to pray, He taught them: Pray then like this: Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name. Have you ever pondered how a rubber band feels when a person stretches it beyond where it has been? They teach a false hope that will eventually let you down and disappoint you. All of the resources and links Ive included are from credible sources (The disclaimer at the top of the list simply means I have not read everything ever written by every single resource Ive listed. I think it should be obvious that a face to face discussion is different from a written one, so theres no need to go into that. My article,
Jill in the Pulpit examines 1 Timothy 2:11-12 (the clearest and most concise passage addressing this topic) in context and explains it (in what I hope is a clear and understandable way- if not, please feel free to let me know if you have any questions). Heres just one example of Priscilla preaching to men: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fIzWbXvfps.
#2- There are a number of resources on false teachers under the Popular False Teachers tab at the top of this page. Check it out and learn about modesty and biblical decision-making. I am asking the following question to understand your doctrinal views. 15 Neither do we boast beyond our limits in the labors of others. (I dont think she was building doctrine in this promotional video, but I could be wrong.).
No-one is beyond compassion. THE CALL? No-one is beyond reach. You are spot on. I dont know half of your theological terminology, but I do know that I love Jesus and Im going to heaven, so Im just fine with that. You know, your making this comment right now is very interesting timing. INTRODUCTION And if I perish, I perish. The third, Chris Rosebrough, is Lutheran (AALC), and much of his theology is in line with Reformed theology. In Japan there was a man in the imperial orchestra couldnt play a note. Like I said in todays article God has more for you and expects more from you than from you than settling for fluff and false doctrine. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.
Morning Service It will help you better understand biblical discernment and the fact that Jesus, Paul, John, Jude and others were pretty negative when it came to false teachers, too! ), placing herself into scripture and thereby improperly luring women to God through personal experiences of Jesus instead of purely reading the Word of God. There is no way to be saved by putting your faith in a false christ. This article really turned me off on her. Why would the Bible give us both descriptive and prescriptive instruction to warn against false teaching if doing so is a sin (gossip)? Michelle, what do you think about this article? Bible Verses about 'Beyond'. Thats why I said may have been. Whether that particular moment in time was, in fact, the moment that Priscilla was introduced to false doctrine and false teachers can be debated, but the fact of the matter is that she came under the influence of false teachers at some point and still unequally yokes herself to them and teaches false doctrine today. She sounds really nice and charismatic and thats about it but my spirit doesnt bear witness with her. All of these people are proponents of the false and anti-biblical Word of Faith (prosperity gospel) doctrine, and the Jakeses are also modalists. This is not a new idea. How to Live Beyond Yourself We can experience fullness of life by acknowledging our weakness, putting our past behind us, striving toward a worthy goal, and going for broke. I hope youll find my response helpful anyway :0). 52-week preaching calendar to help you plan your sermons, Customizable sermon manuscripts for verse-by-verse preaching, Preach with creativity and impact throughout the year, [NEW YEAR] 4-Week Series to kick off 2023, [PRODUCTIVITY] Fulfill your full potential, [FOUNDATIONS] Getting back to what matters most. The Bible says dont do X, Beth Moore does X. Thats breaking Gods command, which is sin. Which is why it grieves me to have to answer that question with: Her theology. Unfortunately, there are serious red flags about some of the things Priscilla does and teaches that Christian women who follow her, or are considering following her, need to be made aware of.
I understand that you have your opinion about Mrs Shirer but to judge I do not think God led you to write this check your heart. We are to base everything we think, do, and believe on Scripture. I dont really care about pursuing holiness and growing in Christ. If thats not what youre saying, I apologize for the misunderstanding, but if it is, Im concerned for your eternity. With all that said, I do not say any of this out of ill intent, anger, or anything along those lines, I simply wanted to clarify, and say, that I agree with Michelles exegesis of (Matthew. I have applied all these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, brothers, that you may learn by us not to go beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up in favor of one against another. I have no doubt that others have confronted her about these things. It does NOT say, and be baptist. 3. Michelle Thank you for your work in the area of discernment. Should she repent in these areas in which she has broken Scripture and align herself with biblical principles, she would have no bigger fan than I, and I would rejoice to be able to point Christian women to her as a doctrinally sound resource. Rebekah gave the servant water but also volunteered to water the 10 camels as well.
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Why do you think I do not? Furthermore, if this is a disingenuous comment/questions, you are being deceitful and displaying ungodly character and you need to repent. But I dont recall her suggesting that Christians meditate or pursue contemplative prayer. We have just joined a new church and I was completely disheartened to find they were about to start two womens Bible studies both by Priscilla Shirer. But we hope that as your faith increases, our area of influence among you will greatly increase as well, 16 so that we can preach the gospel in the regions beyond you. Combining elements of Eastern mysticism and New Age spirituality, this practice of emptying the mind and listening for Gods voice is found nowhere in Scripture. Genesis 24 King James Version (KJV) The False Teaching of Priscilla Shirer on the Here I Stand Theology Podcast, Is Priscilla Shirer a Sound Exegete? People who are genuinely born again have a hunger and thirst for studying the truth of Gods word and growing in Christ. Paul's Apostolic Authority 14 We are not overstepping our bounds, as if we had not come to you. No, I have not confronted Priscilla Shirer about her sin (and thank you for realizing that what shes doing is, in fact, sin). read more, Scripture:
But, yes, sometimes I do offer to send someone Im talking to (face to face) links to my articles, other peoples articles, books, sermons, etc., if theyd like to study an issue more. Any more credible sources out there? And to top that all off, shes beautiful and sharp as a tack. 2 Kings 5:1-15 Heres the thing. My bible teaches those roles but thank you. However, a teenager pointed out to me that Abraham was called . The original promo video I used for this article has been deleted, {so I replaced it with the one above}, but in the original video, Priscilla goes on to say) Thats one in a million. In addition, Beth Moore violates other Scriptures including the ones prohibiting the teaching of false doctrine and yoking ourselves together with those who do. As a womens leader at your church are you not often asked questions to clarify your personal views? Sermon by Rick Crandall Thanks so much for sharing this with me, Kelly! You could choose to simply pick up your Bible and study it. If you dont trust the evidence Ive presented here, I encourage you to do your own research. Theres more than one link in the article providing video evidence of this. He saw 1000s come to Christ over a life time of service. Im not seeing anyone speaking against her except small sources. Moving Beyond the Motions I am gonna pray for you. Also, and I am not downing what you say, as you obviously have many wonderful people reading your blog, these women are an excellent entry way in to the faith. Its not like they bend over backwards to exclude men and cant help it if men stay, short of being bodily removed. Tonight at church he came up and thanked me for sharing and said he hated that these studies got past him. read more, Scripture:
Christians dont get to have our own personal opinions. Exegesis is taking a passage of Scripture in context, and leading out of it- teaching what the passage means. I. Though there are others, these are the major doctrinal errors in this video, which is less than four minutes of teaching from Priscilla. Its not simply a prohibition against women having a job as a pastor- theres more to it than that. Go beyond by faith. The riches of His word are amazing! Going Beyond Ministries with Priscilla Shirer The Mercy of Our Great God (March 24, 2017) Priscilla preaches the Sunday sermon at Celebration Church (co-pastored by a woman), Priscilla Shirer: YOUR Spiritual Battle & the Armor of God (Full Teaching) | Praise on TBN (May 21, 2021) Priscilla preaching to a co-ed audience at Passion 2018, Special Guest Priscilla Shirer (October 11, 2015) Priscilla preaches the Sunday sermon at The Refuge Church (co-pastored by a woman), What Are You Looking At | Priscilla Shirer | Hillsong East Coast (October 4, 2020) Priscilla preaches the Sunday sermon for Hillsong East Coast, Women Teachers? Joshua 24:1-33, Beyond Sunday is about being a person who is after Gods own heart a person who loves God first and foremost who places their love relationship number one in their life the person who does the One Thing the greatest thing first with God/Jesus love, Beyond Sunday pt. The Holy Spirit decided that what this church needed to combat that false teaching was a refresher course in Christology (the study of Christ- who He was, what He did, and why). Astonished Beyond Measure Wow! Evangelical Dark Web. Plus, she has a Bible and supposedly knows it well enough to teach it. To think one can just enter there work into the public domain without criticism, is simply ludicrous! Your defense of Moore and Shirer is based only on your own experiences and opinions. He was one of the founding fathers of the heretical Word of Faith/New Apostolic Reformation movement and a mentor to Ken Copeland, whos also a Word of Faith/New Apostolic Reformation heretic.
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